{"id":4286,"date":"2025-08-17T00:24:19","date_gmt":"2025-08-16T22:24:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.zahadyazajimavosti.cz\/?p=4286"},"modified":"2025-08-18T02:32:06","modified_gmt":"2025-08-18T00:32:06","slug":"videli-stari-egyptane-ufo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.zahadyazajimavosti.cz\/index.php\/2025\/08\/17\/videli-stari-egyptane-ufo\/","title":{"rendered":"Vid\u011bli sta\u0159\u00ed Egyp\u0165an\u00e9 UFO?"},"content":{"rendered":"

V z\u00e1hadologick\u00fdch kruz\u00edch se l\u00e9ta traduje ot\u00e1zka star\u00e9ho egyptsk\u00e9ho papyru, kde se hovo\u0159\u00ed o pozorov\u00e1n\u00ed UFO za doby panov\u00e1n\u00ed fara\u00f3na Thutm\u00f3se III.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u010ce\u0161t\u00ed \u010dten\u00e1\u0159i s t\u00edmto t\u00e9matem byli sezn\u00e1meni poprv\u00e9 v \u010dl\u00e1nku Michaela Hesemanna \u201cJak\u00e1 je pravda : Dokument o UFO ze st\u00e1tn\u00edho archivu fara\u00f3na Thutm\u00f3se III. ?\u201d<\/em> (1)<\/p>\n

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Zab\u00fdval se v n\u011bm \u00fadajn\u011b nejstar\u0161\u00ed zn\u00e1mou zpr\u00e1vou o UFO, zachycenou na jednom z egyptsk\u00fdch papyr\u016f. Autor si v n\u011bm klade 3 ot\u00e1zky :<\/p>\n

1. Existuje v\u016fbec zm\u00edn\u011bn\u00fd papyrus ?<\/p>\n

2. Je jeho p\u0159eklad spr\u00e1vn\u00fd ?<\/p>\n

3. Je papyrus prav\u00fd, tedy 3.500 let star\u00fd ?<\/p>\n

Proto\u017ee n\u00e1s zm\u00edn\u011bn\u00e9 ot\u00e1zky vzru\u0161uj\u00ed stejn\u011b jako ostatn\u00ed, hledali jsme odpov\u011b\u010f na n\u011b sv\u00fdmi cestami. Oslovili jsme dr. Ladislava Bare\u0161e<\/em>, p\u0159edn\u00edho egyptologa. Ten na\u0161emu \u010dasopisu sd\u011blil:<\/p>\n

\u201cProf. A. Tulli byl \u0159editelem egyptsk\u00e9 sb\u00edrky Vatik\u00e1nsk\u00e9ho muzea v dob\u011b okolo 2. sv\u011btov\u00e9 v\u00e1lky. Ostatn\u00ed osoby uveden\u00e9 v prvn\u00edm odstavci, resp. v textu \u010dl\u00e1nku, nejsou v egyptologii zn\u00e1m\u00e9. Z\u00e1hadn\u00e1 je informace o \u201ckn\u00ed\u017eeti Borisovi\u201d, proto\u017ee Boris je z\u0159ejm\u011b jen k\u0159estn\u00ed jm\u00e9no. Jeho p\u0159eklad papyru, \u00fadajn\u011b uve\u0159ejn\u011bn\u00fd v roce 1954 v New Yorku nen\u00ed v dostupn\u00fdch egyptologick\u00fdch bibliografi\u00edch zm\u00edn\u011bn (p\u0159inejmen\u0161\u00edm pod t\u00edmto zcela nedostate\u010dn\u00fdm ozna\u010den\u00edm), nevyskytuje se v nich ani \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e1 osoba tohoto jm\u00e9na a jm\u00e9no Boris se neobjevuje u \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9ho zn\u00e1m\u00e9ho egyptologa rusk\u00e9ho p\u016fvodu (v\u010detn\u011b pom\u011brn\u011b po\u010detn\u00fdch emigrant\u016f). Skute\u010dnost, zda p\u0159\u00edpadn\u00fd \u201ckn\u00ed\u017ee Boris\u201d odk\u00e1zal svou sb\u00edrku Egyptsk\u00e9mu muzeu v Tur\u00edn\u011b by bylo mo\u017en\u00e9 ov\u011b\u0159it jen dotazem na tomto m\u00edst\u011b. D. J. Long, zm\u00edn\u011bn\u00fd, na s. 4 jako americk\u00fd egyptolog, nen\u00ed uveden v mezin\u00e1rodn\u00edm egyptologick\u00e9m adres\u00e1\u0159i, obsahuj\u00edc\u00edm v\u00edce ne\u017e 1000 jmen z cel\u00e9ho sv\u011bta, ani v bibliografi\u00edch egyptologick\u00fdch prac\u00ed, ani v seznamech \u00fa\u010dastn\u00edk\u016f mezin\u00e1rodn\u00edch egyptologick\u00fdch kongres\u016f.<\/em><\/p>\n

Fotografie \u00fadajn\u00e9ho papyru, p\u0159eti\u0161t\u011bn\u00e1 na str. 4, zachycuje pouze prvn\u00edch \u0161est \u0159\u00e1dek p\u0159episu, kter\u00fd je oti\u0161t\u011bn na str. 3. Fotografie je pozoruhodn\u011b nekvalitn\u00ed. Podoby hieroglyfick\u00fdch zna\u010dek, kter\u00e9 lze rozeznat, v \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9m p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b neodpov\u00eddaj\u00ed form\u011b egyptsk\u00e9ho kurzivn\u00edho (tzv. hieratick\u00e9ho p\u00edsma), kter\u00e9 by bylo mo\u017en\u00e9 p\u0159i psan\u00ed na papyrus a\u017e na nepatrn\u00e9 v\u00fdjimky o\u010dek\u00e1vat, ale velmi p\u0159ipom\u00ednaj\u00ed b\u011b\u017en\u00fd tvar zna\u010dek pou\u017e\u00edvan\u00fdch p\u0159i ru\u010dn\u00edm p\u0159episov\u00e1n\u00ed egyptsk\u00fdch text\u016f v sou\u010dasn\u00e9 dob\u011b, resp. v dob\u011b p\u0159ed n\u011bkolika desetilet\u00edmi. Celek ale p\u016fsob\u00ed dojmem, \u017ee ho psal n\u011bkdo, kdo nebyl p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 zb\u011bhl\u00fd v psan\u00ed hieroglyfick\u00fdch zna\u010dek. Pr\u00e1zdn\u00e1 m\u00edsta, resp. otvory z\u0159eteln\u00e9 na fotografii nep\u016fsob\u00ed v\u011brohodn\u00fdm dojmem (pokud se d\u00e1 soudit vzhledem ke kvalit\u011b fotografie) a sp\u00ed\u0161e ne\u017e po\u0161kozen\u00ed, jak\u00e1 by bylo mo\u017en\u00e9 o\u010dek\u00e1vat na svitku papyru, vypadaj\u00ed jako dodate\u010dn\u00e9 n\u00e1hodn\u011b rozm\u00edst\u011bn\u00e9 z\u00e1sahy. Jako celek tak fotografie vypad\u00e1 jako p\u0159efotografovan\u00fd list novodob\u00e9ho pap\u00edru popsan\u00e9ho formami hieroglyfick\u00fdch zna\u010dek neodpov\u00eddaj\u00edc\u00edmi p\u016fvodn\u00edmu staroegyptsk\u00e9mu zp\u016fsobu jejich psan\u00ed.<\/em><\/p>\n

Jm\u00e9no panovn\u00edka Thutmose III. nen\u00ed v textu nikde zm\u00edn\u011bno a nic v uveden\u00e9m textu ned\u00e1v\u00e1 jasn\u00fd podklad nebo alespo\u0148 indicie k datov\u00e1n\u00ed \u00fadajn\u00e9ho papyru pr\u00e1v\u011b do jeho doby.<\/em><\/p>\n

Transliterace textu, uveden\u00e1 na s. 2 a 3 italikou, kombinuje n\u011bmeck\u00fd a anglick\u00fd jazykov\u00fd \u00fazus s \u010dast\u00fdm vkl\u00e1d\u00e1n\u00edm pomocn\u00e9 samohl\u00e1sky \u201ce\u201d, co\u017e m\u016f\u017ee p\u016fsobit impozantn\u011b na neegyptology, ale se starou egypt\u0161tinou m\u00e1 pram\u00e1lo spole\u010dn\u00e9ho. V t\u00e9to samotn\u00e9 transliteraci se objevuj\u00ed \u010detn\u00e9 omyly, kter\u00e9 se p\u0159en\u00e1\u0161ej\u00ed i do p\u0159ekladu. Na mnoha m\u00edstech tak transliterace a z n\u00ed vych\u00e1zej\u00edc\u00ed p\u0159eklad neodpov\u00eddaj\u00ed hieroglyfick\u00e9 podob\u011b, uveden\u00e9 v p\u0159epise na str. 3, kter\u00e1 je sama o sob\u011b pon\u011bkud sporn\u00e1. V textu \u010dl\u00e1nku jsou nav\u00edc zm\u00edn\u011bny dva p\u0159eklady textu, uve\u0159ejn\u011bn\u00e9 v letech 1954 a 1993, nen\u00ed ov\u0161em uvedeno, zda se li\u0161ily – pokud byly stejn\u00e9, nebylo by t\u0159eba p\u0159eklad publikovat znovu. P\u0159eklad uveden\u00fd v \u010dl\u00e1nku se op\u00edr\u00e1 o p\u0159eklad z roku 1993.<\/em><\/p>\n

Celek p\u016fsob\u00ed dojmem novodob\u00e9ho v\u00fdtvoru, zhotoven\u00e9ho n\u011bk\u00fdm se zna\u010dn\u011b ne\u00fapln\u00fdmi a zprost\u0159edkovan\u00fdmi znalostmi star\u00e9 egypt\u0161tiny a hieroglyfick\u00e9ho p\u00edsma, z\u00edskanymi nap\u0159\u00edklad ze z\u00e1kladn\u00ed u\u010debnice tohoto jazyka. U\u010debnice star\u00e9 egypt\u0161tiny jsou b\u011b\u017en\u011b dostupn\u00e9 v \u0159ad\u011b evropsk\u00fdch jazyk\u016f od konce minul\u00e9ho stolet\u00ed. Doklady vlastn\u00ed tvorby staroegyptsk\u00fdch text\u016f zn\u00e1me i z \u010cR je\u0161t\u011b v dob\u011b zcela ned\u00e1vn\u00e9.<\/em><\/p>\n

V\u0161echny t\u0159i ot\u00e1zky, kter\u00e9 jsou v \u010dl\u00e1nku uvedeny na s. 2, lze tedy na z\u00e1klad\u011b p\u0159edlo\u017een\u00fdch \u00fadaj\u016f a dokumentace zodpov\u011bd\u011bt \u201cne\u201d, pokud nebudou p\u0159edlo\u017eeny dal\u0161\u00ed informace a aspo\u0148 trochu p\u0159esv\u011bd\u010div\u00e9 d\u016fkazy o pravosti \u00fadajn\u00e9ho staroegyptsk\u00e9ho papyru.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

Dr. Ladislav Bare\u0161, \u010cesk\u00fd egyptologick\u00fd \u00fastav, UK Praha,\u00a010.11.1997<\/p>\n

A\u010dkoli se v dodatku \u010dl\u00e1nku v Magaz\u00ednu 2000 uv\u00e1d\u011blo, \u017ee 1.9.1996 se redakce obr\u00e1tila na egyptologick\u00e9 muzeum v Tur\u00edn\u011b s dotazy na tento papyrus, odpov\u011b\u010f do vyd\u00e1n\u00ed \u010dl\u00e1nku nep\u0159i\u0161la a od t\u00e9 doby se o p\u0159\u00edpadu v\u00edce nepsalo.<\/p>\n

Na internetu lze v\u0161ak tento podvrh naj\u00edt na mnoha m\u00edstech. (2)<\/p>\n

Odkazy<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

(1) Hesemann, M.: Jak\u00e1 je pravda : Dokument o UFO ze st\u00e1tn\u00edho archivu fara\u00f3na Thutm\u00f3se III. Magaz\u00edn 2000 \u010d. 2, ro\u010d. 1997 (s. 2 – 4)<\/em>
\n(2) http:\/\/ufologie.patrickgross.org\/press\/tulli.htm<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n

Redakce ZAZ, \u010d. 1, ro\u010d. 1998<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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